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what that means for the future. >>> and fiscal cliff talks. stay with us. you're watching "the ed show" on >>> unemployment hits a four had-year low, but republican obstruction is keeping the country from creates more jobs. we'll bring you the latest numbers and i'll ask david cay johnston why now is the time to focus on job creation. >>> and the supreme court will hear two cases on same-sex marriage. we'll get the details from jonathan turly later on in this hour. share your thoughts on facebook and twitter. we're coming right back. >>> welcome back to "the ed show." we have seen a lot of obstructionism from the republicans. trying to stop progress has z how they do business. latest move from senate minority leader mitch mcconnell just might take the cake. he threatened to filibuster his own bill. mcconnell proposed legislation to give the president the authority to raise the debt ceiling. under the plan, congress would need a two-thirds majority to stop him. it's a proposal that president obama likes. so why would mitch mcconnell propose such a bill? to embarrass the democrats. he wa
's talking points memo many believe the president has the upper hand in the fiscal cliff negotiations. if we gopher 00 cliff republicans think they will get most of the blame. if they give in to tax hikes conservatives believe they will infuriate their base. senator rand paul even believes that since they have such little leverage in the talks of president obama. well, republicans should just get out of the way and let the democrats raise taxes as much as they want. and then let the president take responsibility for party of high taxes. now can i understand senator paul's thinking especially given the fact that the president has already announced ahead of his mano a mano meeting can john boehner that he won't concede an inch on tax cuts. this republican defeatism news broke of jim demint's departure from the senate yesterday. is he a tea party warrior and demint is a hero to part of the g.o.p.'s 2010 midterm route. now he is off to head off a think tank the heritage foundation. let's face it the g.o.p. needs new energy. it needs branding help. heck, we have a lot of issues resolve amongst ou
. the president's refusal to budge in negotiations with the g.o.p. on fiscal cliff talks. joining me now university of chicago booth school of business professor and former chairman of the council of economic advisors under president obama, dr. austan goolsbee. dr. goolsbee, where is the stethoscope? come on, i see it there hello, good to see you, austin. >> hey, laura great to see you again. i painted the pictures why conservatives should figure it out and not be in despair. on the other side of the equation you have the president. let's say the president gets his tax hikes. you know, everyone thinks they are going to have higher taxes in the new year. so he gets tax hikes. but then what? i mean, the new normal that's being painted by your friends over at the oecd say our girls will probably be about 2.2%. 2% maybe if we're luck in next year. the new normal even with high taxes doesn't look good. >> yeah. let's hope it's higher than that i think it's going to be a bumpy 60 days in my view. fiscal cliff. as low as that 2% is. the awful state of the world right now is that is about the fa
and in perfect news but the truth is consumer confidence and the fiscal cliff talk could say have something to do with all of it. >> no doubt about it new survey out from reuters, michigan in early december we saw consumer sentiment drop to the lowest level that we have seen since august. that suggests, according to analysts that the increased taxes they are expecting from this fiscal crisis is weighing on consumer spending right now. the other side of this though, of course, is vice president biden went to a diner today to talk to some middle class folks and he basically said he has been talking to business leaders to say the converse of this is if there is a fiscal deal business leaders tell him the economy will be unleashed. take a listen. >> the upside is even bigger than the downside. they are ready to move they have well over a trillion dollars out there continue to vest if they think that the economy is going to move. >> and i have been talking to officials in both pears who say that has been the most surprising thing to leaders in washington here in private is that the markets have remain
. >> and speaking of tears, "saturday night live" spoofed the fiscal cliff talks this week in that opening skit. president obama says he is giving in to republicans to save boehner face. >> you know what, republicans, you win, okay? you get what you want, but you lee had man alone. you leave this poor, orange man alone. you okay? >> yeah. >> i can't hear you. >> yes, yes. >> there he is. >> good day. i'm andrea mitchell live in washington. well, there they were side-by-side, and for real they were in the white house this weekend. president obama taking his message of middle class tax cuts and tax increases for the rich to detroit today. just as michigan is facing a big vote against union organizing in a state long identified with the labor movement. joining me now for our daily fix, msnbc contributor and managing editor of "post politics.com". good day to you. well, first of all, the labor movement really on the ropes now in michigan of all places. michigan where detroit, of course, was the heart of the auto movement, the auto union, and now you've got a vote -- final vote is tomorrow as the pr
to discuss just what all that means for the future. >>> and of course fiscal cliff talk. stay with us. you're watching "the ed show" on msnbc. ♪ the weather outside is frightful ♪ ♪ but the fire is so delightful ♪ nothing melts away the cold like a hot, delicious bowl of chicken noodle soup from campbell's. ♪ let it snow, let it snow >>> unemployment hits a four-year low, but republican obstruction is keeping the country from creating even more jobs. we'll bring you the latest numbers and i'll ask david cay johnston why now is the time to focus on job creation. >>> and the supreme court will hear two landmark cases on same-sex marriage. we'll get the details from constitutional law professor jonathan turley later on in this hour. share your thoughts on facebook and twitter. using the #theedshow. we'll be right back. [ male announcer ] it's that time of year again. time for citi price rewind. because your daughter really wants that pink castle thing. and you really don't want to pay more than you have to. only citi price rewind automatically searches for the lowest price. and if i
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purchase, every day! what's in your wallet? here's your invoice. >>> new job numbers, fiscal cliff talks, legalized marijuana, all the news was fodder for late night comedians this week. >> some good news, some good news. the u.s. unemployment rate is now the lowest it's been in four years. or as makers of sweatpants put it, uh-oh. >>> climate rate has fallen through its lowest level in nearly four years. the bad news, most of those jobs involve wearing a red suit, a beard and having a kid pee in your lap. >> house speaker john bainers says his efforts to work with president obama on the fiscal cliff have resulted in a lot of talk but no action. yeah. a lot of talk but no action, or as they call that in college a date. >> good morning, everyone. i'm randi kaye. victor is off today. it's 9:00 on the east coast. 6:00 a.m. out west. thanks so much for starting your day with us. we start this morning with the supreme court and the decision to hear two major cases on same-sex marriage. justices will hear arguments against the federal government's defense of marriage act and california's propo
cliff. talking a trillion dollars in cuts over ten years. that would mean furloughs for some federal workers, slower hiring, outside contracting, the closer we get to the cliff, the more real it begins to seem. how does that then change the negotiations? >> well, i think it's all part of the political pressure the white house is trying to apply to the congressional republicans. we saw the same thing in '11 when we had the near government shutdown and the dispute over the debt ceiling. the closer we get to the debt line, the white house starts talking act what kind of specific impact this would have. in terms of the fiscal cliff, higher taxes on everybody. one thing that will happen without an agreement, all the bush tax rates go away, so everyone's taxes are going to go up. you'll see that emphasized over the next couple weeks. you'll hear the white house talk about what a bad situation there will be after january 1 if this deal is not cut. >> david jackson, "usa today," shira toeplitz, "roll call." we appreciate your time so much we'll talk to you later in the hour as well. >> thank
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they want to focus on the taxes and get us over the fiscal cliff. but as i said before, it doesn't matter what the president says about the debt ceiling fight. republicans are not budging on taxes without entitlement reform. they're willing to go over the cliff and when there's nothing else to talk about but the debt ceiling increase in january, it has to be for medicare reform and exchange. >> dollar figure on entitlement reform, what are you thinking? >> the president has offered $400 billion. they would look for, they don't think those are real aggressive reforms. they would look for a higher number and they would look for more substantial changes to the program. they don't think those are really getting at the drivers of debt in the program. >> ed, politico today, there's an article on entitlements. republicans ready to get any victory that they can. according to this article. the article goes on to say quote they're going to have to lower their sights by a lot. from the big ideas they pushed in the presidential campaign. with obama in the white house for another four years, republica
into today. ben white to talk fiscal cliff with us. we're talking to amanda terkel from "huffington post" in the next hour. little little bit later in this hour, major neil franklin with a group called law enforcement against prohibition, they're not happy with so many police officers spending so much time chasing pot. we'll get into that with him. but first -- >> this is the "full court press". >> the most memorable quotes of the year. the top two belong to mitt romney. number one -- the number one most memorable quote is the 47% comment that was caught on video. number two is binders full of women. and a quote from president obama is number three. that was his you didn't build that comment. also in the top five, the president's horses and bayonets jab during the debate. >> bill: yeah. we can do that until the end of the year. pull our favorite clips from the campaign. >> bill: 9-9-9. >> some of the clint eastwood stuff could have been in there. >> bill: newt gingrich and the moon. >> plenty of talk about p
the fiscal cliff. meanwhile, we will talk about at the top of the hour, in one day on friday, republican legislators in michigan forced through right-to-work legislation, destroying labor unions in a state that labor built, but unions are getting organized. they are going to be big -- there are going to be big protests and they are they say they will not allow them to get away with this. we will talk about that. the latest. today's current news update from lease a ferguson out in los angeles. hi, lisa. good morning. >> hey, bill. good morning, everyone. big banks are in for another round of trouble thanks to a fresh waves of lawsuits facing claims they sold more than $1 trillion of bond securities backed by home mortgages. banks have paid tens of billions of dollars to settle other lawsuits and some in the industry fear they are facing up to another $300,000,000,000 in losses. many homeowners and investors could argue they deserve a payout from the banks after seeing their mortgages collapse during the financial crisis but economists say those costs cou
very well. i was concerned about the wheel of misfortune there on the fiscal cliff. >> i'm worried about it, too. but let's talk about that. how much leverage do the republicans have? we know that the president has leverage because elections matter but what kind of leverage do the republicans have? >> i think the president wants to get this taken care of, not worry about a debt ceiling in the future and the republicans with their effort in that debate and some negotiating room for the republicans. they would like to see serious entitlement reforms or a movement in that direction and a system set up to try to do major tax reform. i think some of that may happen. we are seeing some democrats show some willingness to tinker around with medicare and social security perhaps. >> john, we can't top talking about the cliff negotiation that's all we've been talking about lately and i have something to bring to the table about that. keep rolling up right there. we're stuck between clifs and it makes me think about the great outdoors and pictures boehner between a rock and a hard place. i wan
we're facing a fiscal cliff or anything. >> you're right, susan. it's not a fiscal cliff but a slope. it's a gradual one. >> stooe, it's not right on to talk about people when they're right there. have some manners. do it behind their back. really, it's got for morale. there's a study and everything. >> if you can't say something nice to something, come on over here and tell it to me. no worries, you're among friends here. it's "the cycle." >>> two big developments on the economic front. first the unemployment numbers for november came out and they were way better than expected. we added a net gain of 146,000 jobs and the unemployment rate dropped to 7.7%, the lowest in four years. to steal a little from krystal, it appears it's obama and boehner one on one. there's no i in team but there's one in win, which is why the fiscal slope negotiations are getting serious. we haven't heard yet from the president but have heard from speaker boehner. >> this isn't a progress report, because there's no progress to report. the white house has wasted another week. it's time for the president, if
at the white house to talk about the fiscal cliff. both sides mum on any details simply releasing statements saying that the lines of communication are open. it is now down to the wire for some something to happen that lawmakers can approve. there still needs to be enough time for the house and senate to review the legislation to debate it and possibly to pass it. we're back after the break. >> that's hilarious! >> ...and the thinkers thinking. >> okay, so there's wiggle-room in the ten commandments is what you're telling me. >> she's joy behar. ... and current will let me say anything. >> only on current tv. [ male announcer ] red lobster's hitting the streets to tell real people about our new 15 under $15 menu. oh my goodness! oh my gosh this looks amazing! [ male announcer ] our new maine stays! 15 entrees under $15 seafood, chicken and more! oo! the tilapia with roasted vegetables! i'm actually looking at the wood grilled chicken with portobello wine sauce. that pork chop was great! no more fast food friday's! we're going to go to
boehner argued themselves into a corner on this fiscal cliff? >> the president has a clear, simple position. he wants to prove he can dominate by getting the rates up. either you are going to go over the cliff or find some kind of dramatic concession for the president. >> how does boehner give on rates. he said i oppose tax rate increases because tax rate increases cost american jobs. that gives you no room to give on rates. >> joining me now is former vermont governor and howard dean and republican strategist. general tmen, it's great to have you hear. if both president obama and the speaker postured themselves to the point any concessions look like a loss? >> i'm not paying that close attention to the negotiations because i believe we ought to go over the cliff. if you want maximum deficit reduction with the tax rates we paid with bill clinton and cuts as well as human service cuts, that's how you ought to do it. any compromise is going to be for the cliff. i'm for the cliff. >> newt gingrich, now governor dean there. do you feel the same way? is that the best way for the preside
house to talk about the fiscal cliff. both sides mum on any details simply releasing statements saying that the lines of communication are open. it is now down to the wire for some something to happen that lawmakers can approve. there still needs to be enough time for the house and senate to review the legislation to debate it and possibly to pass it. we're back after the break. jennifer >>>> it's these "talking points" that the right have about "the heavy hand of government". i want to have that conversation. let's talk about it. really. really! that you're gonna lay people off because now the government's going to help you fund your health care. really? i wanna be able to have those conversations. not just to be confrontational, but to understand what the other side is saying. and you know, i'd like to arm our viewers with the ability to argue with their conservative uncle joe over the dinner table. ♪ ♪ the trucks are going farther. the new 2013 ram 1500. ♪ ♪ with the best-in-class fuel economy. engineered to move heaven and earth. ♪
movement. finally, the fiscal funnies. saturday night live could not help spoofing the cliff and the talks that aren't really talks between president obama and house speaker john boehner. >> in order to get the support of the speaker, i agree there will be no tax increases. i repeat, zero tax increases. why give in? well, simply put, i felt sorry for this man. early this week i found my way into the congressional cafeteria and what do i see? john boehner sitting by himself all alone, not a single member of his party willing to share his company. he didn't even have any milk to drink because, well, tell them why, john? >> they tinked in my milk and threw it in the garbage. >> i'll see back here tomorrow at 121:00 a.m. eastern time. now with alex wagner, who is coming up, a live edition now from washington today. alex, you left me. i miss you. >> oh, thomas. i'll be back at the end of the week, my friend. >> by thursday, right? >> yes. perhapsly have resolved the whole fiscal cliff thing in the meantime. >> excellent. >> president obama is taking his great reasonableness tour on the road aga
for the labor department. >> in terms of the fiscal cliff, so far we are not seeing any big impact. >> reporter: not even an impact on retail which, for all the talk of online supplanting bricks-and-mortar buying, added 53,000 jobs last month-- much of it holiday hiring, no doubt-- but a healthy 140,000 overall increase in the past three months. not all the new numbers were festive, however. construction shed 20,000 jobs, though perhaps influenced by sandy. manufacturing dropped 7,000. grinchier still, job growth in september and october was revised down by 49,000 jobs. and for all the talk of a lower unemployment rate, its explanation seemed to be that several hundred thousand more americans stopped looking for work in november and were counted out of the labor force. again, economist holtzer. >> this month's change was driven completely by the fact some people stopped looking. last month's drop in unemployment really was driven by people becoming employed. the fact the unemployment rate has dropped from over 10% over the last two or three years part of that is real job gaining by some people
off this fiscal cliff, it doesn't make the deficit worse. it makes the deficit better. it would go a long way toward curing the deficit, but the deficit isn't the immediate problem for most people, the weak economy is. >> i agree. >> and if we dive off the fiscal cliff, the economy could get much weaker. that's -- >> by the way -- >> -- millions of americans. it's a problem for barack obama. >> just to back you up, i really think the great thing is the economy is just starting to lift up a. the unemployment rate is really starting to come down. we're getting good job production. thank you so much, ladies, for coming on tonight. thanks for the sharp thinking we got tonight. >>> up next, if you can't win by the rules, change then. that's what republicans are trying to do in pennsylvania. they don't like the lerer toal college because it didn't work for them. come back for the place for politics. derate alzheimer's, you'll also care about our new offer. you get access to nurses who can help with your questions. and your loved one can get exelon patch free for 30 days. if the doctor fe
, that's it from the brink and the fiscal cliff is coming quickly at us. it's doing definite damage to boehner's brand. a new "washington post"/abc poll showing voters overwhelmingly disapprove of boehner's handling of the fiscal talks. it's an even split on the president. who is still sticking to his guns, urging the gop to pass tax cuts for the middle class by christmas? >> taxes are going to go up one way or the other. i think the key is to make sure that taxes go up on high end individuals like you and me. we can afford it. it is entirely possible for us to come up with a deal but time is running short. >> right to work is wrong! >>> our other story developing in michigan today, where labor unions are considering a large scale counter offensive. the home of the uaw is now the first blue right to work state after a pair of bills were signed into law by governor rick snyder who appeared on msnbc's "morning joe" today. >> i believe this is pro-worker. because the way i view it is workers now have freedom to choose. this does not deal with organizing at all. this does not deal with
with this sort of fiscal cliff, fiscal slope, hill, wharf you want to call it are going to be very, very important issues. i want to clear one things up. the republicans wants to talk about deductions all the time. one of the key distinctions between letting the taxes go up a little bit on the 2% versus trying to find this money through deductions, is the fact when we're talking about capping deductions, that's something that's going to impact middle class families and middle class earners the most. and so it really is -- i don't want to make this about class warfare. it's really about what is fiscally smart for the economy. most economists are telling us this tax increase will not have very much impact in terms of growth. if you talk about essentially raising taxes on 98% of americans either through some kind of crazy deduction plan or just letting the bush tax cuts go, that can have a very, very severe effect on the economy. >> as usual dr. peterson makes a superb point. president clinton used to say if you want to live like a republican, vote for a democrat because they will give you
about the future of labor? >>> but we begin with the latest on the fiscal cliff. republicans made another counteroffer but it's reportedly not much different from their first offer. though we don't have specifics, we do know the president and john boehner talked on the phone last night and that call, according to a republican familiar with it, was tense and lasted just 15 minutes. i want to bring in real clear politics reporter aaron mcpike and david hawkings, editor of the cq roll call daily briefing. good morning. so president obama sat down with barbara walters last night. here's what he said. >> most important thing we can do is make sure the middle class taxes do not go up on january 1st and i'm pretty confident that republicans would not hold middle class taxes hostage to try to protect tax cuts for high income individuals. >> so he's confident. is it almost a foregone conclusion, do you think, david, that this is going to be the first piece of the puzzle that falls into place? >> i'm pretty confident that that's going to have to be the first piece of the puzzle that falls i
at the top of the hour to tell us about the fiscal cliff clayen. jacki schechner healthcare geek. i ahead an article on the hill, we should warn the cockles -- leave medicaid out of the talks. liberals are pressing to take medicate off the table in deficit reduction talks. you talked about this in our last jacki's healthcare corner. >> the medicaid expansion is interesting because part of the way that we're going to get everybody covered is expanding medicaid up to 133% of poverty. that's part of the affordable care act. and the president and the administration are being very strong right now about insisting that states have to follow the law to a t and not be able to implement it incrementally or partially. so not only leave it out of the talk but the administration is holding firm right now and insisting that this medicaid expansion either take place in its entirety or not at all. >> stephanie: i wound up the healthcare bot. >> sorry. [ laughter ] >> stephanie: very good. love you. now here she is putting on her l
about the fiscal cliff claifen. the president yesterday. >> obama: i have said i will work with republicans on a plan for economic growth, job creation, and reducing our deficits, and that has some compromise between democrats and republicans. i understand there's a -- you know, people have a lot of different views. i'm willing to compromise a little bit. >> stephanie: yeah. >> i worry about him talking about compromising. >> stephanie: i think he is doing the right thing, though. he is hitting the road like campaign style and taking -- and the polls are showing that it is working. again, just like in the election, the american people largely with him would largely blame republicans if this happens. he is building his case. he said it will be a hit you can't afford to take. and if anything, jim, the president has toughened his demand in the last few days. i mean, it really -- that -- that i really think is true. because we have never seen this breed of republicans before that have taken that hostage. it shouldn't be part of negotiations of anything. it'
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